Public statement
contact with the signatories to:
dolinski-gottfried@t-online.de
At
Prof. Dr. Bodo Zeuner
representative of the Signatory within the
Open Letter from 06.07.2010
In a copy to the colleague:
Berthold Huber and Detlef Wetzel
Olivier Hoebel
Joerg Hofmann
Johan Baur
Arno Hager
Dear Bodo Zeuner,
ladies and gentlemen,
want to expressions of solidarity and your open letter to competing lists for Daimler, we are active metals and metals inside, with this letter from an overview of our Berlin-NEN objective contribution to the debate taking.
Our intention is not to conflict with Daimler in Berlin - Marie Felde be comprehensively evaluate, because that we lack detailed information that is important in our view, will be all involved colleagues at Daimler needs. We keep-ever unconditional solidarity competing lists of gewerkschaftsna-hen people from science, education, media, law and other fields of cultural production, assess the conflict with Daimler probably even more limited than we can-NEN, of little use.
The Open Letter throws for us, who are in different functions in Berlin enterprises to actively trade union politics and policy advocacy on many issues that we discussed.
What is it about our view on the investigation process and what are the back-cloths?
Daimler, there were still any council election a detailed discussion on the list of the IG Metall trade union representatives' list. This discussion was controversial and according to our information this time also marked by a not always properly oriented discussion style in the IG Metall trade union bodies at Daimler. For all uncontested was that different to holders of trust people have to be discussed and debated, and of course we are aware of two non-lists is that this principle is called into question. In discussions before the elections were at the Daimler advantages and disadvantages of persons or Lis-tenwahl discussed extensively and passionately.
The opponents of choice have been several people on the confidence of the body and invited the VKL, a candidate on the list of IG Metall and like all the discussion BR-Kandidat/innen to put the list up. This was rejected.
was finally voted in the trust body. A wide and clear majority of the stewards has spoken for the people and democratic elections held
a
is that the union with a list in the council election and thus the voters allows persons nenwahl, the most democratic of all election forms.
Our questions:
- how you stand as an outsider - even teachers and cultural workers, to ensure that the operation selected by the members of the stewards a unique Be-hold circuit with a large majority? Can we put outside a "model BMW, however, and the honorable Colleagues set before and if so, who should be mized this legitimate?
The metals and metals inside the competing lists have this democratic decision taken, one need not agree that one has but to respect in accordance with the provisions of the IG Metall Statute and according to the rules of union democracy, not accepted and are with their own List started.
Our questions:
- A militant IG Metall demands from our point of view a bond, and disci-lin inside. What would follow from your point of view, if a collective laps etc. own decisions made in spite of clear majorities would be absurd?
- If the "competition" between the representation of a given their own profile on a common list was what justifies your point of view then a behavior that decisions ignored and a single and united presence of IG Metall in operation damaged (diversity in unity)?
Some IG Metall members of Daimler has led the criticism of the actions of the electoral list-makers to hold to request an investigation by labor injurious Ver. The facts will have to be so enlightened now. Why is replaced with you like this great concern? Perhaps because it is already your assessment? IG Metall is in any event inform first and then evaluate.
It is just not straight, as shown incorrectly in your letter is a "circuit-training procedures. The mutual accusations are audited by an independent, inspection, no prejudice results. We also want our anger and our disappointment expressed research about the fact that we are of you (the term "process of elimination" arouses emotions), more knowledge of the statutes of the IG Metall would have liked, which improves the chances for a substantive discussion in a difficult situation would have.
To clarify: There are so Daimler-members and colleagues who disagree show gene, with a disregard for the democratic decision taken their body confidence. You apply for a right under the statute to claim that each member is entitled.
Our questions:
- Why are you taking the difficult situation at Mercedes in Marienfelde in the context of a "change of policy of the IG Metall" and rated him as "a throwback to the 70s"?
- Your approves of the "competing" lists a serious concern to place applicants on the examination which apparently does not. What self-understanding will guide you in this evaluation?
- Why do you share the self-attribution of the "alternatives" as "more conflict-prone", combative list and this assumes that implicitly, the vast majority of the UK, the Works and the 1400 Berlin Daimler employees who have chosen the IG Metall list, they would not use a strong and combative interests senarbeit?
The signatories advocate a more objective and less dramatic. We stand there, for one, that dealing with Daimler not exploited for personal purposes is
2. We won because of our information, the impression that the heart is not about a new quality militant advocacy.
We all are in operation in the responsibility and know that the categories "konfliktorien benefits and Co-management in operational work and in conflicts in use do not help and the workplace representation is hardly so simple and unkomplex well that they - as tempting as that may seem to some - could represent in this category. At the same time we question the power to define himself postulated categories such as "left, aggressive and conflict-oriented," both from the "conflict-ready" list as well as supposedly-kind support.
Our questions:
- What's militant trade union policy?
- How Do You Measure a fierce and determined advocacy policy, without reflection in the open letter from our point of view is unfounded and granted the "alternatives"?
We do not believe that the degree of radical demands, is independent of a result and the ability to assert a measurement criterion. We also do not believe that the working harrlichkeit with its own position, is represented, regardless of majority decisions, is a useful measurement criterion. Rather, we seem to criteria that take into account the result of operational conflicts, the participation and consent of employees and the sustainability of the results as very important. We believe that a serious confrontation training, which we experience every day in corporate conflicts, all with the enforce-ment capability our claims, and strong advocacy for a lot of sense.
advertise why we ensure that our colleagues at Daimler - and I mean all - get the chance to resolve their conflict with the support of our IG Metall constructive and that the strong corporate and union representation at Daimler, which we in all of the past in collective disputes and in many other operational and inter-company disputes (67 pension, job security, etc.), have benefited from being damaged.
Scientists and cultural workers, the union-level commitment, we appreciate and essential for trade unions are, we want our work based on an unbiased, differentiated and critical discussion. Your contributions to the question of how to achieve a real change of the political and economic environment towards a more just and united society, were and are important to us. Therefore it was important to question your letter critical.
With the many questions that we put up for discussion, but it is clear to us one thing: a weakening of the IG Metall union in the company and outside the company we will not further the aim of bring-gen - this is what all historical and current experiences.
Berlin, 22.06.2010 want to expressions of solidarity and your open letter to competing lists for Daimler, we are active metals and metals inside, with this letter from an overview of our Berlin-NEN objective contribution to the debate taking.
Our intention is not to conflict with Daimler in Berlin - Marie Felde be comprehensively evaluate, because that we lack detailed information that is important in our view, will be all involved colleagues at Daimler needs. We keep-ever unconditional solidarity competing lists of gewerkschaftsna-hen people from science, education, media, law and other fields of cultural production, assess the conflict with Daimler probably even more limited than we can-NEN, of little use.
The Open Letter throws for us, who are in different functions in Berlin enterprises to actively trade union politics and policy advocacy on many issues that we discussed.
What is it about our view on the investigation process and what are the back-cloths?
Daimler, there were still any council election a detailed discussion on the list of the IG Metall trade union representatives' list. This discussion was controversial and according to our information this time also marked by a not always properly oriented discussion style in the IG Metall trade union bodies at Daimler. For all uncontested was that different to holders of trust people have to be discussed and debated, and of course we are aware of two non-lists is that this principle is called into question. In discussions before the elections were at the Daimler advantages and disadvantages of persons or Lis-tenwahl discussed extensively and passionately.
The opponents of choice have been several people on the confidence of the body and invited the VKL, a candidate on the list of IG Metall and like all the discussion BR-Kandidat/innen to put the list up. This was rejected.
was finally voted in the trust body. A wide and clear majority of the stewards has spoken for the people and democratic elections held
a
is that the union with a list in the council election and thus the voters allows persons nenwahl, the most democratic of all election forms.
Our questions:
- how you stand as an outsider - even teachers and cultural workers, to ensure that the operation selected by the members of the stewards a unique Be-hold circuit with a large majority? Can we put outside a "model BMW, however, and the honorable Colleagues set before and if so, who should be mized this legitimate?
The metals and metals inside the competing lists have this democratic decision taken, one need not agree that one has but to respect in accordance with the provisions of the IG Metall Statute and according to the rules of union democracy, not accepted and are with their own List started.
Our questions:
- A militant IG Metall demands from our point of view a bond, and disci-lin inside. What would follow from your point of view, if a collective laps etc. own decisions made in spite of clear majorities would be absurd?
- If the "competition" between the representation of a given their own profile on a common list was what justifies your point of view then a behavior that decisions ignored and a single and united presence of IG Metall in operation damaged (diversity in unity)?
Some IG Metall members of Daimler has led the criticism of the actions of the electoral list-makers to hold to request an investigation by labor injurious Ver. The facts will have to be so enlightened now. Why is replaced with you like this great concern? Perhaps because it is already your assessment? IG Metall is in any event inform first and then evaluate.
It is just not straight, as shown incorrectly in your letter is a "circuit-training procedures. The mutual accusations are audited by an independent, inspection, no prejudice results. We also want our anger and our disappointment expressed research about the fact that we are of you (the term "process of elimination" arouses emotions), more knowledge of the statutes of the IG Metall would have liked, which improves the chances for a substantive discussion in a difficult situation would have.
To clarify: There are so Daimler-members and colleagues who disagree show gene, with a disregard for the democratic decision taken their body confidence. You apply for a right under the statute to claim that each member is entitled.
Our questions:
- Why are you taking the difficult situation at Mercedes in Marienfelde in the context of a "change of policy of the IG Metall" and rated him as "a throwback to the 70s"?
- Your approves of the "competing" lists a serious concern to place applicants on the examination which apparently does not. What self-understanding will guide you in this evaluation?
- Why do you share the self-attribution of the "alternatives" as "more conflict-prone", combative list and this assumes that implicitly, the vast majority of the UK, the Works and the 1400 Berlin Daimler employees who have chosen the IG Metall list, they would not use a strong and combative interests senarbeit?
The signatories advocate a more objective and less dramatic. We stand there, for one, that dealing with Daimler not exploited for personal purposes is
2. We won because of our information, the impression that the heart is not about a new quality militant advocacy.
We all are in operation in the responsibility and know that the categories "konfliktorien benefits and Co-management in operational work and in conflicts in use do not help and the workplace representation is hardly so simple and unkomplex well that they - as tempting as that may seem to some - could represent in this category. At the same time we question the power to define himself postulated categories such as "left, aggressive and conflict-oriented," both from the "conflict-ready" list as well as supposedly-kind support.
Our questions:
- What's militant trade union policy?
- How Do You Measure a fierce and determined advocacy policy, without reflection in the open letter from our point of view is unfounded and granted the "alternatives"?
We do not believe that the degree of radical demands, is independent of a result and the ability to assert a measurement criterion. We also do not believe that the working harrlichkeit with its own position, is represented, regardless of majority decisions, is a useful measurement criterion. Rather, we seem to criteria that take into account the result of operational conflicts, the participation and consent of employees and the sustainability of the results as very important. We believe that a serious confrontation training, which we experience every day in corporate conflicts, all with the enforce-ment capability our claims, and strong advocacy for a lot of sense.
advertise why we ensure that our colleagues at Daimler - and I mean all - get the chance to resolve their conflict with the support of our IG Metall constructive and that the strong corporate and union representation at Daimler, which we in all of the past in collective disputes and in many other operational and inter-company disputes (67 pension, job security, etc.), have benefited from being damaged.
Scientists and cultural workers, the union-level commitment, we appreciate and essential for trade unions are, we want our work based on an unbiased, differentiated and critical discussion. Your contributions to the question of how to achieve a real change of the political and economic environment towards a more just and united society, were and are important to us. Therefore it was important to question your letter critical.
With the many questions that we put up for discussion, but it is clear to us one thing: a weakening of the IG Metall union in the company and outside the company we will not further the aim of bring-gen - this is what all historical and current experiences.
In solidarity,
first signatories Students:
Astrid Diebitsch, Betiebsratsvorsitzende NSN Berlin; Gottfried Dolinski, Chairman Osram, Berlin plant, Wolfgang Walter, Chairman of Siemens Messgerätewerk Berlin, Franz Plich, Chairman of Siemens Energy Service; Andreas Felgendreher, Deputy. Chairman of Osram, Berlin plant, Bruno Rocker, Chairman Schleicher elec-tronic GmbH, Lennart customer, Chairman of Siemens gas turbine plant in Berlin, Iris Ziesche, Chairwoman Stad LER Pankow GmbH, Frank Mielchen, Deputy. Representatives' head of Siemens gas turbine plant in Berlin, Jörg Fischer, Vertrauenskörperlei-ter Siemens gas turbine plant in Berlin, Uwe Dreesen, Chairman Semperlux AG, Gerhard Lux, Chairman Converteam GmbH Marie Felde, Martin Rüss, Deputy. Chairman of Converteam GmbH Marie Felde, Susan Buchert, trust body Head Siemens Messgerätewerk Berlin, Wilfried peoples representatives' leadership Siemens measuring instruments factory, Martin Krause, Chairman of Procter & Gamble Manufacturing Berlin, Ingo Kruse, works Procter & Gamble Ma-nufacturing Berlin, Michael-Jörg Kutz, representatives' director Procter & Gamble Manufacturing Berlin; Ayse Harman, a staff representative Procter & Gamble Manufacturing Berlin;
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To Gottfried Dolisnski
representative of the undersigned within
the public statement of 06/22/2010
In a copy to the colleague:
Berthold Huber and Detlef Wetzel
Olivier Hoebel
Arno Hager
Klaus Abel and other members of the local board
Berlin Berlin, 17.07.2010
Our Reply
Ladies and gentlemen,
concerns with your public statement your opinion on the controversy surrounding the council election, 2010 in Berlin, Daimler-Marie Felde. We also consider the thorough discussion of the issues raised in the letter, questions would be useful and necessary.
a completely we agree with your concerns, if you write:
"That's why we advertise that our colleagues at Daimler - and I mean all - get the chance to resolve their conflict with the support of our IG Metall constructive and that the strong corporate and union representation at Daimler, by all of us in the past in collective disputes and in many other operational and inter-company disputes (Pension 67, job security, etc.), have benefited, not damaged, "
order to make this strike, we propose.
After the summer school holidays, in the period from 23.8. 09/03/2010 to organize, we co-hosted for IG Metall trade union members in our house, to which all affected and interested colleagues are invited. This internal IGM discussion, we should naturally invite Bodo Zeuner and / or other signatories of the issues raised by you, "Open Letter".
It is certainly your concern if that the results of such a debate in the decision of the local board. We therefore ask the members to take only after such an event on the recommendation of the Investigation Commission.
a completely we agree with your concerns, if you write:
"That's why we advertise that our colleagues at Daimler - and I mean all - get the chance to resolve their conflict with the support of our IG Metall constructive and that the strong corporate and union representation at Daimler, by all of us in the past in collective disputes and in many other operational and inter-company disputes (Pension 67, job security, etc.), have benefited, not damaged, "
order to make this strike, we propose.
After the summer school holidays, in the period from 23.8. 09/03/2010 to organize, we co-hosted for IG Metall trade union members in our house, to which all affected and interested colleagues are invited. This internal IGM discussion, we should naturally invite Bodo Zeuner and / or other signatories of the issues raised by you, "Open Letter".
It is certainly your concern if that the results of such a debate in the decision of the local board. We therefore ask the members to take only after such an event on the recommendation of the Investigation Commission.
Yours sincerely
Günter shoots (Member Delegates IGM, Berlin), Klaus Murawski (UK Director Otis, Berlin)
Michael Hahn, Heinz-Werner Kruse, Claus-Jürgen Thiemig, Axel Fronczek, Uwe Langbein, Axel Aurich (all council members BMW, Berlin), Holger Schwabe (UK Member BMW, Berlin )
Köbrich Hans, Peter Vollmer, Rainer Knirsch (former BR BMW, Berlin)
Dogan Börühan (BR Chairman Ford Visteon, Berlin)
Fevzi Celikbas (BR Chairman Hettich, Berlin)
Hüseyin Akyurt (UK Head of BSH, Berlin)
Hartmut Meyer (UK Director Nokia Siemens Networks GmbH)
Markus Dahms (Chairman BR IBM ND, Berlin), Jens Köpping, Angela Exner, Eckhard Mauersberger, Siglinde Fischer, Oliver Brandt, Axel Uhlig (all BR IBM ND, Berlin)
Peter Lohse (BR-member CNH, Berlin)
Felix Weitenhagen (BR-Member Siemens derailleur, Delegates IGM, Berlin)
Constance Lindemann
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